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Divine Entervention
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Posted - 2014.04.13 02:07:00 -
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CCP wants money so they use their Developer power to instantly materialize isk to purchase all the lower priced PLEX to change the now cheapest price to what they feel is now a high enough baseline to influence more people to pay with subscriptions rather than PLEX. Proof of lying in thread.
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Divine Entervention
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.04.13 02:28:00 -
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Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Divine Entervention wrote:CCP wants money so they use their Developer power to instantly materialize isk to purchase all the lower priced PLEX to change the now cheapest price to what they feel is now a high enough baseline to influence more people to pay with subscriptions rather than PLEX. Yeah, that's why there is an event starting tomorrow that will be giving away literally hundreds of free PLEX. 
Maybe that's why it went up, because of all those hundreds of plex they bought to give away.
Proof of lying in thread.
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Divine Entervention
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.04.13 02:41:00 -
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So then exactly 100% without a doubt, what is the precise reason PLEX went up to 740m? Proof of lying in thread.
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Divine Entervention
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.04.13 02:45:00 -
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Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Divine Entervention wrote:So then exactly 100% without a doubt, what is the precise reason PLEX went up to 740m? It's a heavily inter-related economy, there are a number of causes. Your conspiracy theory bullshit is not one of them.
There's no proof it's not correct. Is it though? Probably not. Does that mean, considering this is all speculation anyways, that it's less fun to speculate the cause being a CCP driven conspiracy?
Nope Proof of lying in thread.
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Divine Entervention
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.04.13 02:49:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Divine Entervention wrote:There's no proof it's not correct. GǪaside from it having no basis in reality, which makes it false by default. Quote:This is more likely the cause than my suggestion, but mine, IMO, is alot more fun to consider. Not really, no.
your opinion Proof of lying in thread.
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Divine Entervention
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.04.13 02:50:00 -
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Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Divine Entervention wrote:
There's no proof it's not correct. Is it though? Probably not. Does that mean, considering this is all speculation anyways, that it's less fun to speculate the cause being a CCP driven conspiracy?
Nope.
I have no proof that the polished rock on my desk *doesn't* keep away tigers. I have no proof it does either, but I don't see any tigers. Isn't doublethink lovely?
That sounds like a really cool rock.
Do you have one that protects against bears? There's a bear problem here. Proof of lying in thread.
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Divine Entervention
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.04.13 02:55:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Divine Entervention wrote:your opinion Not really, no. What you're engaging in is a classic onus probandi fallacy. It's not humorous, just ignorant.
Then ignore it.
The only reason you're becoming affected by my posting is because you're choosing to allow it.
You can't prove me wrong 100%. All of this is speculation unless CCP themselves reveals exactly what happened.
So until then,
*speculate wildly* Proof of lying in thread.
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Divine Entervention
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.04.13 02:57:00 -
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Kaarous Aldurald wrote:"You can't prove my wild bullshit statements 100% wrong"
And that makes any of it true?
Does it matter? Proof of lying in thread.
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Divine Entervention
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.04.13 03:00:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Divine Entervention wrote:Then ignore it. I know you have a fondness for lying, but that's not a good reason to let you keep doing it. Quote:You can't prove me wrong 100%. I don't have you. You're wrong by default, even more so when the actual reasons are fairly well known and readily obvious. You prove yourself 100% wrong by failing to prove yourself even 1% right.
Does it matter?
This entire thread is speculation. Proof of lying in thread.
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Divine Entervention
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.04.13 03:02:00 -
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Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Divine Entervention wrote:Kaarous Aldurald wrote:"You can't prove my wild bullshit statements 100% wrong"
And that makes any of it true? Does it matter? That you not only cannot prove your own statements to be true, but also believe that they stand up without any proof? Yeah, that matters.
So according to you some guy named "Jimblidge" caused the price hike by himself.
How did he do that? How do you know 100% factually to be true that a guy name "jimblidge" is soley responsible for causing the average price of a PLEX to go up to 740m?
You don't know it. You were joking.
Yet when you jokingly speculate, it's fine. It's acceptable.
yet when someone you don't like because you've allowed yourself to become emotionally influenced over the exchange of words on an internet forum, you feel it's time to set all joking aside and turn the internet "argument' into SERIOUS BUSINESS. Proof of lying in thread.
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Divine Entervention
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.04.13 03:08:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Divine Entervention wrote:Yet when you jokingly speculate, it's fine. It's acceptable. GǪlargely because he's not speculating, nor rumour-mongering about CCP's activities.
So I'll wait for him to prove to me that "jimblidge" did indeed cause the price raise by himself.
Which also means that if he wasn't joking, and his answer was serious and correct, that your:
Tippia wrote:Fanfest stream and the weekly skin release were recently announced.
Is incorrect. Because you yourself have said that he's not speculating. Which means it's the actual answer, and if his answer is correct, then yours is wrong since it was different from his. Proof of lying in thread.
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Divine Entervention
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.04.13 03:20:00 -
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Tippia wrote:GǪwhich he never claimed. That's just one of your usual distortion-based straw men. It is also not at odds with what I said. ]
He did claim it, right here: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4463287#post4463287 Proof of lying in thread.
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Divine Entervention
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.04.13 03:22:00 -
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Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Divine Entervention wrote:
So I'll wait for him to prove to me that "jimblidge" did indeed cause the price raise by himself.
You need to learn to read. I said that he caused "a price hike by himsef", thanks to buying and losing 3000 dollars worth of plex in an 8 hour period. I did not say he is the cause of the entire 120 million isk price increase in plex in the last two weeks. That's just something you decided to make up in your head. Knock off your bullshit.
O? Because the OP asked his question through the thread title and his post and your response was:
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4463287#post4463287
Proof of lying in thread.
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Divine Entervention
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.04.13 03:28:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Divine Entervention wrote: You mean in the post that makes no mention of causing the price raise by himself? No, he did not. That's just you being sloppy in your reading, and distorting what people say to manufacture yet another one of your strawmen, as always. Quote:O? Because the OP asked his question through the thread title and his post and your response was GǪnot what you claim it was. So you're back to your old lying ways again.
His answer doesn't clarify. He puts no limit in that post how much of "a price hike" it caused. 1%? 100%? Considering no defining parameter was established, speculation, what the entire thread is, is allowed.
Every answer in this thread is "wrong" because we don't know for certain. Wrong until proven correct, correct which no one can de facto prove.
Your choosing to focus on my "wrong" answer over every other "wrong" answer in the thread shows a bias on your part.
I didn't direct my answer to you specifically, yet you chose to single mine out as the one that required correction.
That's bias Proof of lying in thread.
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Divine Entervention
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.04.13 03:32:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Divine Entervention wrote:His answer doesn't clarify. GǪwhich is why your assertion is a strawman: because you inject things he never actually said to create an argument that was never made. Quote:Considering no defining parameter was established, speculation, what the entire thread is, is allowed. It's not speculation, though, nor does his post alter what is and isn't allowed. The nonsensical rumour-mongering you're engaging in is still against the rules.
The entirety of the thread is rumour-mongering.
None of use know the exact answer so every answer provided is a speculative rumour.
Even yours Proof of lying in thread.
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Divine Entervention
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.04.13 03:38:00 -
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Tippia wrote: It's not speculation, though, nor does his post alter what is and isn't allowed.
The nonsensical rumour-mongering you're engaging in is still against the rules.
The only people I see here breaking any forum rules are you and Kaarous:
2. Be respectful toward others at all times. 4. Personal attacks are prohibited. 5. Trolling is prohibited.
Proof of lying in thread.
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Divine Entervention
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.04.13 03:40:00 -
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Tippia wrote: Most of the answers, including mine, are entirely factual. Your illogical conspiracy theory is not.
So you believe. Proof of lying in thread.
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Divine Entervention
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Posted - 2014.04.13 03:45:00 -
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You guys believe what you will, for whatever justification you can use to validate your doing so.
I'll do the same.
In the mean time, try to refrain from breaking the forum's rules. Proof of lying in thread.
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Divine Entervention
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.04.13 03:52:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Divine Entervention wrote:In the mean time, try to refrain from breaking the forum's rules. No need to GÇ£tryGÇ¥ what I'm already doing. You should heed your own advice, though, especially in relation to #5 and #31. And again, it's not a question of believing, but of knowing.
Whatever you may believe you know, you're allowed to believe to know. Proof of lying in thread.
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Divine Entervention
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.04.13 03:54:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Divine Entervention wrote:Whatever you may believe you know, you're allowed to believe to know. Again, it's not a question of belief but of established fact. If you want to argue contrary to facts, I'd like to hear your justification.
So you believe Proof of lying in thread.
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Divine Entervention
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.04.13 04:00:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Divine Entervention wrote:So you believe Nope. What I believe is something completely different and not the topic of the thread.
Well, IMO, you often break forum rules towards me, specifically: 2. Be respectful toward others at all times. 4. Personal attacks are prohibited. 5. Trolling is prohibited.
So while I value your contribution to the EvE community via participation, you don't paint yourself as someone I wish to spend much time interacting with.
While on the other hand, I must be highly desireable considering how often you go out of your way to get me to interact with you. Proof of lying in thread.
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Divine Entervention
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.04.13 04:05:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Divine Entervention wrote:Well you often break forum rules, specifically: 2. Be respectful toward others at all times. 4. Personal attacks are prohibited. 5. Trolling is prohibited. Nope. By the way, why are you so anxious to pull this thread off topic? Quote:While on the other hand, I must be highly desireable considering how often you go out of your way to get me to interact with you. Non sequitur. You are simply a cornucopia of errors, fallacies, and misinformation GÇö stuff that needs to be corrected lest it spreads to the less fortunate. It's not a highly desirable job, but it needs to be done.
You mentioned breaking forum rules first.
My initial post was "on topic" yet you and kaal chose to derail it into a more specific discussion about me. Proof of lying in thread.
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Divine Entervention
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.04.13 04:29:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Divine Entervention wrote:You mentioned breaking forum rules first. So? That doesn't mean you should keep doing it. Oh, and I mentioned it because you asked why it matters that you're lying. Quote:My initial post was "on topic" Your initial post went straight for the jugular and broke rule #31, and as your quotation marks indicate, you know this full well. You then quickly veered off-topic by trying to argue against my correcting your errors, rather than about what we know for a fact about the price of PLEX.
I initially agreed with you.
My disagreeance with you came about when you began to dictate my stance on which I feel is more fun. I said it was more fun, IMO, to believe my initial suggestion. You then stated that it was not more fun. Which I then said is your opinion, because you cannot possible dictate which I find more fun.
Then you started trolling me Proof of lying in thread.
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Divine Entervention
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.04.13 04:32:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Divine Entervention wrote:Then you started trolling me No. Then I kept explaining why your fallacies need to be kept in check, even for your own good.
That's your opinion. Proof of lying in thread.
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Divine Entervention
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Posted - 2014.04.13 04:42:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Divine Entervention wrote:That's your opinion. No, it is my activity and my intention.
Activity and intention to push forward your opinion. Proof of lying in thread.
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Divine Entervention
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Posted - 2014.04.13 06:42:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Divine Entervention wrote:Activity and intention to push forward your opinion. Nope.
Yup Proof of lying in thread.
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Divine Entervention
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Posted - 2014.04.27 11:13:00 -
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One possibility is that CCP raised the price because they want more people to be enticed into buying it. tippia wrong post 43 showing tippias deleted quote, proof of him lying
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Divine Entervention
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Posted - 2014.04.27 13:20:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Divine Entervention wrote:One possibility is To bad that being possible is completely meaningless. If you want to just list such meaningless inputs, let's start doing so in earnest. GÇó It is possible that the prices are going up because the FSB is silently killing off all PLEX sellers. GÇó It is possible that the prices are going up because the database transaction query is accidentally salami-slicing all orders. GÇó It is possible that the prices are not going up, but only seem to be doing so. GÇó It is possible that the prices are going up in spite of CCP lowering the prices because they want to make more money. GÇó It is possible that the prices are going up because of hidden price-increase mechanics built into the market. GÇó It is possible that the prices are going up because CCP Dr.EyjoG is running an experiment. GÇó It is possible that the prices are going up because I want them to. GÇó It is possible that the prices are going up because of falcon. GǪjust off the top of my head. Please add more as you come up with them.
*It is possible that the prices are going up because of outside influences tippia wrong post 43 showing tippias deleted quote, proof of him lying
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